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Terribly boring. It's something. Better being just bored at home and at work than being sick.

The best way is import vaccines from Russia, let those who have vaccinated to travel overseas freely without quarantine and swabs test, even without any government subsidies still worthwhile. Swabs test plus quarantine cost at least $2000, i believe vaccines from Russia won't cost this much. More importantly, no need to worry about Covid anymore after getting vaccinated.

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Key pointers from the news :

More clinics in Singapore were able to do the covid-19 swab test. Recently my colleague's niece had a fever, went to see her doctor downstairs & got ask to do a quick swab test. Result came within 24 hours through her sms showing negative.

Asked her about the procedure, she says she was given 5 days MC & she had to be staying at home aka under SHN (Stayed Home Notice) until after her test result is out showing negative before she is lawfully able to step out.

Cost of test plus all the medication = S$10 (and she's a non-Singaporean)

I have been looking at loop holes through all those procedure since Singapore government has NOT been disallowing Singaporean. Its just that the so called "punishment" for non-essential travel is rather heavy.

On 26th October 2020, i will be looking at how those green lane thingy works before digging in further.

The whole implementation of those procedures were to prevent anyone or any Singaporean from catching covid-19 before & after travelling (to Batam in my case) anywhere out of Singapore.

1. How to get the certification from doctors that i have been corona-virus free is crucial.

2. Cost of test is also important (Singapore side). This one already solved.

3. How Batam side's reaction to Singaporean who has been tested corona-virus free going over is another important thing too. Example, do i need to take another test in Batam? And how much it would cost in rupiah.

4. Next would be going back to Singapore. How's the procedure going to be like, example would be be SHN or quarantine? or together with yet another test or both?

5. How not to step onto the line of "punishment" set by the Singapore Government?

Essential or no essential didnt quite matter much at this time. Most important, is to get that doctor certification & i can travel to Batam (ever since day 1 in mid March, Singapore has not restrict anything/anyone from travelling except for the "punishment" cost). And then get the coming back to Singapore procedure right.

Followed by to decide IF i can withstand those damages "created" by Singapore government if my travel falls under the category of non-essential.

11 more days to wait for government to finalize.

Just my analysis sharing.

* sometimes, when situation are blurry. But when it has been categorized (and analysis), the "picture" may becomes clearer.

** constructive discussion can make a clear picture even clearer, especially if i might have missed out some key things somewhere.

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Its true. Pretty bored working at home too. For me i prefer going to office. But wearing of mask and jam packed in train kind of turn off for me.:o

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I feel like you mirror me (or viceversa). I was going to office 2-3 times a week even in March during lockdown in my country (I had some arguments to claim my activity at office was essential to the society).
As you say, the serious risk is taking trains during jam hours, but I always go on bicycle except when raining, when I take my car (this is not Singapore, normal people can have a car).

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y? u plan 2 ge siao fever & go 4 swab test ah @ $10 ah? lol :D

then after swab test , geng to get the letter then can go btm izzit? :p

i too, no like wk frm home...lol

knn sg bosses all nwday siao liao...work frm hm is like wking 24 hr a day. Work in office onli 9 to 5 nia...after then can go hm or go jalan jalan 4 drinking...but wk frm home boss & other cuntry colleagues suka suka ani time can call me & ask me read email & then mus reply em asap...otherwise they cuntplain 2 my bosses....

at 7pm after office hr

my colleagues : hello mister iccy, can u go read yr email & send me the xxx report & wideo frm tat porn hub site asap?

i : Hello brother, nw is 7pm lei...after office hr liao lei...i eatin diner wit my ger ger lei....

my colleagues : Oh, i tht u wking frm home? nw cannot send me ah?! It's ok, i go ask frm yr boss then....

i : ok la, ok la...i send u the report nw...give me few min ya. :(

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Think easier to use running nose than fever to geng.

Think this one common everywhere...

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Just a short 45 minutes ferry ride away, Batam is a familiar getaway destination for Singaporeans.

Though popular with casual visitors and tourists, the island will only be welcoming essential travellers after applications begin next Monday (26 Oct).

With Batam as one of the entry points for Indonesia and Singapore’s reciprocal green lane, the holiday destination is getting ready to receive visitors for the first time in months.

The Covid-19 pandemic has put a halt to travels between Singapore and Indonesia since March this year.

Now, as Singapore business travellers plan their upcoming visits to Batam, the island is also preparing to welcome them.

At Batam Centre Ferry Terminal, the installation of Covid-19 polymerase chain reaction (PCR) swab test equipment is underway, reported The Straits Times (ST)

Officials have also conducted dry runs of arrival procedures, to ensure that every point of administration including the following run smoothly:

disembarking the vessel
taking the Covid-19 swab test
moving to the respective hotels
Further precautions like sanitisation of public areas and repainting of handrails will also be in place.

The agreement between Singapore and Indonesia on a travel green lane came on 12 Oct, ahead of applications which start on 26 Oct.

According to ST, applicants must be Indonesian citizens, Singapore citizens or Permanent Residents (PRs) to qualify.

They will also need a sponsorship from an Indonesian government or business, and a valid visa.

Similarly, travellers from Indonesia must receive sponsorship from a government agency or business here.

In all cases, they must have proof of negative Covid-19 tests from a recognised health institution before departing and after arriving.

Chance at revival for tourism-dependant Batam

The resumption of essential travels with Singapore is a bright spot for Indonesia as their struggle with the Covid-19 pandemic rages on.

Border closures had hit tourism-dependant Batam hard, leaving empty malls and eateries closing for good, reports ST.

Pre-pandemic, the Batam International Port welcomed about 5,000 travellers from Singapore and Malaysia everyday. At its peak, these numbers reached about 15,000.

While the green lane is expected to beckon the arrival of only 300 travellers in the first month, the number is still a relief after 7 months’ worth of losses.

Travellers will be able to book rooms at roughly 10 hotels, which are getting ready to host them soon.

A crucial first step to economic recovery

All around the world, economies are taking a big hit from the Covid-19 pandemic.

Opening Singapore up to essential business travels is a crucial first step towards our recovery. As of now, Singapore has already set up green lanes with countries such as Malaysia and China. We are also gradually loosening travel restrictions with other countries.

As things begin to look up, we can only hope that with everyone observing safety protocols, one day, leisure travels will be on the horizon too.

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Indonesia is a walking virus country. You dare to go ar? My indo friend tell me their hospital can turn people away if you go there with covid syndromes. Say no facilities to check or bed you. Wtf right.

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As long as you are not critical.
even though you have it.. but not critical , you have to treat it yourself.
unless you need respirator , then you can get admitted if the space allows .
my indo friend got it , so the wife and kids and the parents all went for the test.

only him and the wife and the kid got it. he rent a diff place and move his parents there.

he and the wife and the kid all self treat and recover. coz only mild symptoms , 2 weeks later they are cleared.

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Work in office strictly official. Once after 5pm i no hew leow. Anything, tom then talk. I no mix personal with office matters. But if work at home, cant siam.:o

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Yes I heard that too. In doing so they look for dukun. Can treat/cure many illnesses.

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Doubt Sg will reopen borders with Indonesia, especially batam so soon.

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Any idea when can go Batam?

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Ask Donald Trump. He knows.