[nono1973]

Originally Posted by localbest

Ya bro Nono, your smart idea of negotiation has indeed created a win-win-win situation for all parties. (Bros/you, supir & papi/mami/OKT)

I am just trying to make everyone in my deal happy,hehehe...and i dont like to lose in bargaining and who knows,i may be the only loser who think and feel that i am actually winning...lol. I am always wary of myself being overly confident.

Remember the record book we talk about the other day? OKT in Batam has a minimum sum to book a girl off from their joints.They are workers,not bosses. One small example will be,girl A can be book at 800k with minimum sum at 600k. Okt saw a carrot head walk in,he immediately quoted the carrot guy 1.2 juta. Carrot guy pay 1.2 juta,but in that record book,OKT only wrote 800k.

Not every joints play the same game tho,thats why i spend time dwelling in every joints for a while (an hour or 2 per joint) during the beginning of my Batam trips to observe and help myself better understand "how things work",hehehe....every joints has a different work culture hence a different "button" to hit to get them offer "special" recommendation. This is very interesting to me.

My objective,i wish to have the BEST for least.

Originally Posted by localbest

Therefore the high price that he quoted in the beginning may have included the supir's commission but because you bargain down somemore, his price now becomes the usual price without supir. But who is going to bear the cost of the supir's commission ? Needless to say of course the OKT will have no choice but to absorb the cost of supir's commission. 真高明 pintar banget...

I have said this before,but the bookmark was kept in my office (i couldnt find it,hehehe...). I am going to say this again (i a bit long-winded...lol). Whether with taxi driver or no taxi driver,if one do not bargain at all and pay the quoted prices by the OKT directly. He is paying for the taxi commission even he goes to joints w/o a taxi driver. But if i bargained,hehehe...even if i have a driver with me,the taxi commission will not be from my pocket.

I apologize if i sound a little childish here. i treat my Batam trips like an RPG game nowaday.

Originally Posted by localbest

Same as you to avoid the crowd, I usually go to batam on weekday. I was at goldbird on a monday afternoon at about 1pm there was about 15-20 cewek. A few cewek sitting on each bench to reflect the pricing category 1juta,800k,700k.

Thank you for your reply. This is very important information to me.

Among Mon to Thu,monday appears to be not as good as the other days to hit Batam for me. Monday blues for the girls,i guess. Becos they worked hard from fri to sun. Monday MC (sick) or rest and/or come out later,hehehe...(my guess)

This is just personal theory.

Originally Posted by localbest

Gold bird girls I wouldn't say all are not pretty, some still looks attractive especially the 1juta cewek. But no way it can be compete with permata indah in terms of numbers, quality & age of cewek. The only good thing is that their pricing not as expensive as permata indah.

i make a comparison on 5 girls over 5 girls between Gold Bird and Permata Indah. Permata appears to have more prettier girls,but service standard wise,i still feel Gold Bird girls are better or at least more stable.

Hehehe..i only had one dick i cannot bonk so many girls in a short frame of time,so my comparison of 5 on 5 are base on other group trip's friends/bros who tried and feedback-ed to me. Both joints are known to be good (better than Bunga and Happy 8 but comparable with New Berry),but i have more satisfied newbies/friends/bros in Goldbird than in Permata.

I think my main reward i got from bringing newbies and friends to Batam is their direct FRs from each of the respective joints/MPs. (there are other sources too)

Originally Posted by localbest

Ya rite, at least permata indah most of them only charge 1.2 juta unlike some joint can display 1.5 - 2juta cewek scary sia...

I learned another thing in Batam.

Different season,different part of the month,there will be different pricing,hehehe... wait,i forgot one more other thing,different people asking for the price is also another factor. A few friends on my 18th Batam trip who goes to money changer without me got quoted a lousier price of 9700/SGD. i forgot how much i was quoted but definitely a better price. I was as shock as my friends to know that too.

So it does pays to be humble,well-mannered and not be demanding.

One of the MOST IMPORTANT thing i learned in Batam is,Money can practically buys me everything...but i may not get the BEST of what i buy with money if i do not understand Batam well enough...hence there is no such thing as a best place ,a best joint or a best girl,only those of which that suits oneself.

Just my thoughts...
(i know,i know...i think too much...lol)