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Nowaday,i seldom visit Madurani Massage or Indo Rasa anymore due to their market rate being badly spoilt (I used to get 100k dick massage in both places, but I couldn't do it today anymore) becos they were in a high tourist traffic area.
i switched to quite a handful of popular known 'clean massage places' which I didn't mention a lot here. As for why I didn't mention much of their names here is becos I went there for special service, whereby most others probably woudnt be able to get since its technically clean.
Let's say, if I share in public that I get 150k hj and 350k in places like Spa Secret (example and illustration only),
I am more likely to get flame for lying. 
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True. Also, because you know how to TCSS, be friendly and build rapport with these therapists. Who knows you may even get your standard 100k HJ and 200k FJ. That's also depend on your will power and staying firm in the first case. Of course, the risk is you get nothing at the end of the session. If you do and get the ball rolling, every time you go there with the same therapist, you get the same price with the exception of sometime giving extra 50k for tip.
Through TCSS and know the therapist has children, on subsequent visit, sometimes buying some biscuits, chocolate and treats from the supermarket as a surprise will sealed the bonding better. Most of the time always the same price (common understanding) and the service is always much better. This is the pro and the con is can be sticky.
(For info only and not for sharing the place)
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10 out of 10 bros who joined me in my trips know well I couldnt communicate in bahasa at all,hehehe...and bargaining do not require one to speak their language.
In fact, i find it is an advantage for myself to bargain w/o knowing their language.
(the art of bargaining is to slowly give in little by little, the one who gives in to the opponent most lost the game. And language barrier may some time cause the massage girl impatient enough to give in to me totally)[QUOTE]
Agree. Even if you know Bahasa Indonesia, sometimes dee gong, dee gong can also be an advantage in this type of situation. That's provided the massage lady has yet to chop someone heavy and she wants the deal to go ahead.